Before Amazon Studios won the rights to make the Lord of the Rings TV series Rings of Power, HBO Max and Netflix were in the mix--this much we knew already--and now new details on their pitches have come to light.

Sources told The Hollywood Reporter that HBO pitched the Tolkien Estate on a series set in the Third Age, which is the timeline during which Peter Jackson's movies took place. According to the report, the estate had no interest in making a TV series set during the Third Age, considering Jackson's movies already dug deep into this time during Middle-earth's history.

Netflix, meanwhile, is said to have pitched "several shows" to the Tolkien Estate, including shows focused on Gandalf and Aragorn. "They took the Marvel approach," a source said, adding that this "completely freaked out the estate."